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Inspiration

Listen Without Judgment: Byron Katie'sMethod for Honest Connection

Byron Katie
Byron Katie
Feb 28, 2018
9 min di lettura

Byron Katie uses her inquiry method—called The Work—to help a woman examine her core belief that her adult daughter "doesn't tell me about her life." Through questioning the thought's validity, exploring her emotional reactions, and identifying the unconscious narratives (images of past and future) that cloud her perception, the woman discovers she was literally dreaming over reality while her daughter was trying to communicate. The Work reveals that listening requires releasing the mental constructs we layer onto events, and that hurt and anger arise not from what others do, but from the stories we believe about what they do.

Lettura · 8 sezioni

How Does Suffering Arise When We Believe Unexamined Thoughts?

A woman approaches Byron Katie with a written statement: "I am hurt with Courtney because she doesn't tell me about her life." Her adult daughter Courtney had called a few days before Christmas to announce she was moving—a direct act of communication. Yet the mother experienced devastation and shock, not gratitude or curiosity.

Katie's first question cuts to the heart of The Work's method: "So she called you to tell you she was moving and she doesn't tell you about her life. Is it true?" The woman pauses. She wrote it down, but faced with the contradiction, she admits: "No." In that moment, something shifts. The belief the woman has organized her emotional life around—a belief that shaped how she spoke to her daughter on the phone—collapses under scrutiny.

This is the entry point of The Work. Suffering doesn't come from what people do. It comes from the stories we tell ourselves about what they do, stories we treat as fact without investigation. Katie explains: "We think the fire is all over us but in reality, it's over there. She's calling to tell us about her life and actually, we're believing she doesn't tell us about her life." The mother had constructed a narrative so complete that it blinded her to the evidence contradicting it.

What Happens When You Examine Your Reaction to a Belief?

Katie guides the woman into a meditation on the actual phone call. With eyes closed, the woman is asked to relive the moment: sitting on her bed, hearing her daughter announce the move, and noticing the thought "she doesn't tell me about her life" arising in her mind. Then Katie asks the crucial question: "Now describe to us how you reacted, what you said on the phone to her your attitude, how you react when you believe the thought?"

The woman's answer is honest and raw: "I was shocked, I was hurt I was just devastated at the news." Then, pushed further: "I was angry, I was really angry. I said what do you mean? I was angry and hurt and just, you know who do you think you are to just call me up on the phone and tell me you're moving?"

The woman admits: "I attacked her."

This is critical. The Work distinguishes between the event itself (the daughter calling to share life news) and the mother's reaction (anger, defensiveness, attacking). The reaction does not come from the event. It comes from the thought believed without questioning. Katie calls this the gap between what is real and what the mind makes up. A daughter tells her mother about her life. That is the fact. But the mother, lost in her story, missed it entirely.

How Do Unconscious Images of Past and Future Block the Present Moment?

Katie then takes the inquiry deeper, asking the woman to notice the images her mind generated while she believed the thought "she doesn't tell me about her life." The woman describes them: "That I just won't ever see her again" and "I saw her getting on a plane with her father when she was two and saw when she moved out and saw when I haven't seen her all these years."

These are not memories of the actual past. They are a constructed narrative mixing real events with catastrophic projections. The mind stitched together a story of abandonment and loss, all while the daughter was speaking. Katie articulates this clearly: "Those images of past, future, that's the dream. The dream world. So drop the dream world and who and what are you without the thought she doesn't tell me about her life who are you without these images of past, future listening to your daughter telling you she's moving?"

The woman's answer, when she releases the dream, reveals what was actually possible: "I'm excited, I'm excited for her." She continues, now fully present: "I'm excited and curious and just in awe of how brave she is at what she's doing."

This is the Work's core insight: when we drop the narrative, we drop suffering. The fire was never on the mother. It was in her mind. Reality—a daughter calling to share her news—was available all along. But the mind's images of past and future created a barrier, turning a moment of connection into a moment of attack. Katie summarizes: "There's a daughter telling her mother she's moving and then, there is mother the dreamer and without the dream the question is who or what are you?"

How Do the Turnarounds Reveal Hidden Beliefs and Blind Spots?

The Work includes a step called "turnarounds," where the original statement is flipped to reveal alternative truths. The woman's statement "She doesn't tell me about her life" becomes, first, "She does tell me about her life." The woman laughs in recognition—her daughter did try. She called. She shared. She made an effort.

Then Katie offers another turnaround: "I don't tell me about my life." The woman realizes that in the moment of the phone call, she was absorbed in her own private dream world of past and future, not present to her actual life. She was not honest with herself about what was happening. Then: "I don't tell her about my life." The woman acknowledges that by being reactive and angry, she withheld her authentic self from her daughter.

The turnarounds are not semantic games. They are invitations to see where the statement applies to oneself. They expose the unconscious projection—the way we assign to others the very blindness or withholding we practice ourselves. A woman who accuses her daughter of not sharing is often the one who is not sharing her own inner life, not telling herself the truth about the moment she is in.

Why Does Katie Say "Hurt Is a Tantrum"?

Embedded in The Work is a radical reframing of hurt. Katie states: "Hurt is a tantrum." This is not diminishing real emotional pain. Rather, it identifies the mechanism. A tantrum is a reaction to not getting what we want. When we believe the thought "she doesn't tell me about her life," we are actually believing "she should tell me about her life" and "I need her to do it the way I want." When reality doesn't match the demand, we experience hurt, which is the ego's protest.

Anger and hurt, in this framework, are signals that we are attached to a story. The woman was angry because she needed her daughter to be someone who shares proactively. She was hurt because the universe was not complying with her unspoken expectations. The moment she released the demand—the moment she heard her daughter actually calling and sharing—the hurt dissolved. What remained was love and genuine curiosity about her daughter's bravery.

How Does This Work Apply to Advice and Judgment of Others?

The third statement on the woman's worksheet was: "Courtney should trust me and talk to me." Katie probes this with characteristic directness: "Really?" The audience laughs. The woman realizes how presumptuous the statement is. She has been judging her daughter's choice not to confide, demanding that the daughter change her behavior to suit the mother's emotional needs.

The turnarounds flip this: "I should trust her and talk to her." More radically: "I should trust her and listen to her." Katie plays with the word "talk," asking what its opposite might be. The audience guesses. Katie offers: "Listen."

This is the article's title made concrete. Listening requires trust in the other person. It requires releasing the narrative about who they are or how they should behave. It requires presence. The mother had been "talking" to her daughter while internally judging and attacking. She had not been listening. The turnaround asks: what if the mother's work is to trust her daughter and listen, rather than to make her daughter perform on the mother's emotional stage?

What Changes When You Stop Believing a Thought?

Remarkably, Katie points out that only three statements into the worksheet (there are often more), "the way you saw the original situation is already flipped because you are more aware, more awake to yourself than when you wrote it and it's already becoming humorous." The woman laughs at her own demand that her daughter text and call her before the mother texts or calls her. The statement, once charged with need and resentment, now seems absurd.

This is The Work's empirical promise: inquiry into a belief does not suppress emotion. It does not require willpower or self-discipline. Instead, it invites the mind to see what is actually true. When the mind sees the truth, the belief loosens its grip naturally. The woman doesn't have to force herself to love her daughter or to feel excited for her. That authentic response arises once the false story is questioned.

Katie describes this as enlightenment—a gradual illumination that comes from examining our own thinking. Not mystical, but practical. Not a one-time event, but a deepening practice of noticing when the dream world (past and future narratives) is layered over reality, and consciously choosing to drop it.

Where to go from here

The Work of Byron Katie is available at thework.com, where you can download worksheets and learn the full process. Katie's method has four basic questions: (1) Is it true? (2) Can you absolutely know it's true? (3) How do you react when you believe that thought? (4) Who would you be without the thought? The turnarounds follow. This same process can be applied to any belief causing suffering—beliefs about family members, colleagues, partners, or yourself. The invitation is to test your thoughts against reality rather than automatically defending them. For those interested in live instruction, webcasts are available at livewithbyronkatie.com.

Transcript

[0:01] - Who would volunteer to read what they've written?

[0:08] Yes?

[0:10] - I wrote I am hurt with Courtney because

[0:13] she doesn't tell me about her life.

[0:17] - Okay, so would you like to do the work?

[0:21] Okay, let's do the work.

[0:24] Hey.

[0:26] - My adult daughter Courtney doesn't live with me anymore

[0:28] and she called me a few days before Christmas

[0:31] and told me she was moving

[0:34] and I was quite shocked.

[0:37] - Yeah.

[0:38] So she doesn't tell you about her life, is that true?

[0:41] - That's true.

[0:43] That's what I wrote down.

[0:46] (audience laughing)

[0:51] - So she called you to tell you she was moving

[0:54] and she doesn't tell you about her life.

[0:56] Is it true?

[0:58] - No.

[0:59] - Good.

[1:03] So just feel that for a moment.

[1:05] It's like, we think the fire is all over us

[1:09] but in reality, it's over there.

[1:12] She's calling to tell us about her life

[1:16] and actually, we're believing

[1:17] she doesn't tell us about her life.

[1:20] - Right.

[1:22] - Yeah. - Yeah.

[1:25] - So close your eyes and you're on the phone with her.

[1:30] Is that it?

[1:31] - Yes.

[1:32] - You're on the phone with her.

[1:33] You see where you're sitting or standing?

[1:35] - Yes, sitting on my bed.

[1:37] - Okay, you're sitting on your bed

[1:39] and she's saying

[1:42] she's saying she's moving

[1:45] and you're thinking she doesn't tell me about her life.

[1:49] Now

[1:50] describe to us

[1:52] how you reacted, what you said on the phone to her

[1:56] your attitude, how you react when you believe the thought

[2:02] she doesn't tell you about her life

[2:05] when she's telling you about her life.

[2:10] - I was shocked, I was hurt

[2:22] I was just devastated

[2:24] at the news.

[2:30] - Yeah.

[2:31] - All of a sudden, out of the blue.

[2:37] - Yeah.

[2:38] - Yeah.

[2:40] - So you fell apart?

[2:44] Or did you come at her with an attitude?

[2:47] - I did.

[2:48] - Okay, so.

[2:50] (audience laughing)

[2:57] So close your eyes.

[2:59] This work is meditation.

[3:02] We're meditating on a moment in time.

[3:05] So close your eyes.

[3:07] You don't have to guess, you're sitting on the bed

[3:11] you see you there.

[3:13] You see you talking to her.

[3:16] You can hear her.

[3:18] Now describe your attitude,

[3:22] describe

[3:24] describe how you reacted

[3:28] when you had the thought

[3:30] she doesn't tell me about her life?

[3:32] - I was angry, I was really angry.

[3:36] I said what do you mean?

[3:39] I was angry and hurt and just, you know

[3:43] who do you think you are to just call me up on the phone

[3:46] and tell me you're moving?

[3:48] - Yeah.

[3:49] Yeah.

[3:52] So basically you

[3:54] you attacked her.

[3:55] - I attacked her, yeah.

[3:57] - Yeah.

[3:58] Okay, so just

[4:01] just experience that.

[4:04] Okay, so you see that in your minds eye, okay.

[4:10] Now, listen to her.

[4:14] You know before I move there, with your eyes closed

[4:18] notice

[4:20] she said she's moving

[4:25] notice the thoughts of

[4:28] notice the images of past and future

[4:32] that went on in your head

[4:35] when you had the thought she doesn't tell me

[4:37] about her life on the phone.

[4:42] What images of the future did you see?

[4:49] - That I just won't ever see her again.

[4:51] - Yes.

[4:52] And you also saw you alone without her.

[4:56] - Yes.

[4:57] - Okay.

[4:58] You saw that as you were sitting on the bed

[4:59] when you believed she doesn't tell me about her life.

[5:06] So you saw that image and notice the image

[5:09] the images of the past as you were sitting on the bed.

[5:18] What did you see?

[5:27] - Just saw her getting on a plane

[5:28] with her father when she was two

[5:35] and saw when she moved out

[5:38] and saw when

[5:40] I haven't seen her all these years.

[5:47] - Yes.

[5:51] So now with your eyes closed, see you on the bed

[5:56] without the thought she doesn't tell me about her life

[6:01] just witness you on the bed

[6:02] without the images of past and future

[6:05] and just listen to her.

[6:08] She's saying I'm moving

[6:12] without the images of past, future.

[6:17] Just listen.

[6:18] This is like saying, see where the fire actually is.

[6:26] It's like you're sitting on the bed

[6:30] and then you see these images of past, future.

[6:40] And you experience this horrendous dream

[6:47] and you believe, you're believing the dream.

[6:50] Those images of past, future, that's the dream.

[6:53] The dream world.

[6:56] So drop the dream world

[7:00] and who and what are you without the thought

[7:04] she doesn't tell me about her life

[7:05] who are you without these images of past, future

[7:09] listening to your daughter telling you she's moving.

[7:18] - I'm excited, I'm excited for her.

[7:26] Yeah.

[7:28] - Just stay there and hear now

[7:31] experience now what you couldn't experience then

[7:38] you were dreaming over reality.

[7:46] Understand that's what's meant by caught in the dream.

[7:52] There's a daughter telling you she's moving

[7:57] a daughter telling her mother she's moving

[7:59] and then, there is

[8:02] mother the dreamer

[8:09] and without the dream

[8:13] the question is who or what are you?

[8:17] - Yeah, I'm excited and curious

[8:23] and just in awe of how brave she is at what she's doing.

[8:28] - That's your girl.

[8:30] - Yeah, yeah.

[8:31] - There she is.

[8:33] Not like her mother.

[8:34] (chuckling)

[8:38] She doesn't tell me about her life, turn that around.

[8:43] She does?

[8:44] - She does tell me about her life.

[8:46] (chuckling)

[8:47] She does, yes.

[8:51] She does.

[8:52] - She tries.

[8:54] - She tries, right.

[8:56] (chuckling)

[8:59] Yes.

[9:01] - Yeah.

[9:03] - Yeah she could have texted me.

[9:05] (audience laughing)

[9:13] - She doesn't tell me about her life.

[9:17] So can you see another turn around, I?

[9:20] - I don't tell me about my life, I don't?

[9:23] - Yeah, in that situation

[9:27] where is it that you weren't telling you about your life?

[9:34] You had a secret inner life.

[9:38] Those dreams of past, future.

[9:41] - So I don't tell me about the present, about my life?

[9:50] Yeah.

[9:52] - Yeah you were busy dreaming.

[9:52] - Right.

[9:54] Yes.

[9:56] - She doesn't tell me about her life

[9:58] another turnaround, I don't tell her.

[10:01] - I don't tell her about my life.

[10:08] - How would that sound?

[10:11] Listening to you, what I hear is

[10:14] I love you, I don't want you to

[10:18] go further away from my life

[10:21] and I love that you would

[10:22] I'm excited for you at the same time

[10:25] and I love that

[10:28] that you called me even though you know

[10:32] how I may take this news.

[10:34] (chuckling)

[10:41] You know

[10:42] I don't tell her about my life.

[10:48] - Yeah, I don't tell her about my life.

[10:50] I don't tell her about the here and now.

[10:53] Wow, you're doing what?

[10:58] - Yeah.

[11:00] Okay, so let's look at statement two.

[11:04] - Two.

[11:06] I want Courtney to text or call me often

[11:09] and before I call or text her.

[11:13] (laughing)

[11:21] Oh my.

[11:26] Good.

[11:27] - Let's turn it around

[11:30] while you're here.

[11:31] I want her to text or call me often

[11:33] before I call or text her, how would you turn that around?

[11:37] - I want myself to text or call her

[11:42] often

[11:43] before.

[11:45] I want myself to text or call her often

[11:54] before she texts or calls me.

[11:59] - So let's look at three.

[12:02] - Three.

[12:03] In this situation, what advice would I offer them?

[12:07] Courtney should trust me and talk to me.

[12:12] - Really?

[12:14] (audience laughing)

[12:15] - No.

[12:16] - You see, we're only on the third one

[12:22] and the way you saw the original situation

[12:25] is already flipped

[12:28] because you are more aware, more awake to yourself

[12:33] than when you wrote it

[12:35] and it's already becoming humorous.

[12:37] It was there by the second one.

[12:41] Okay. - Okay.

[12:42] Yes, thank you.

[12:44] - So she should trust you and talk to you?

[12:46] Let's turn that one around.

[12:47] I should.

[12:49] - I should trust her, I should trust me and

[12:55] I should trust

[12:58] her

[13:00] and talk to her.

[13:03] I should trust her and talk to her.

[13:04] - And then when you meditate on that

[13:07] you contemplate that

[13:10] with everything that's been shown to you

[13:14] it begins to enlighten you,

[13:16] enlighten you, enlighten you even more.

[13:19] So can you see another turn around?

[13:21] She should trust me and talk to me.

[13:28] - I should trust her and talk to her.

[13:34] - What's the opposite of talk?

[13:38] - Text?

[13:39] - Listen.

[13:40] (laughing)

[13:42] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[13:45] - Okay.

[13:47] - The opposite of talk could be listen.

[13:51] - So I should--

[13:53] - Trust her.

[13:54] - Trust her and listen to her, ah.

[13:59] I should trust her and listen to her.

[14:01] Yeah.

[14:03] Yeah.

[14:04] - So you see how we've taken talk and turned it to listen?

[14:06] Those are turnarounds.

[14:12] So let's look at four.

[14:13] - Okay, four.

[14:16] I need Courtney to want to tell me things about her life.

[14:22] - So considering the woman on the phone

[14:24] is that true?

[14:25] - No.

[14:27] No.

[14:29] - No it's not even something you want.

[14:31] - No.

[14:32] - No.

[14:34] So how do you react when you think this thought

[14:37] and you're on the phone with Courtney?

[14:40] I need her to want to tell me things about her life.

[14:46] - I feel awful, I feel hurt, I get tense like.

[14:52] - Yeah.

[14:56] Your images of past, future, what you're believing

[14:59] doesn't allow you to even hear that she is.

[15:03] - Yeah.

[15:04] - That she is telling you things about her life.

[15:09] So listen to her, who would you be without the thought

[15:12] I need her to want to tell me things about her life?

[15:17] So just listen to her on the phone.

[15:20] The way that, just see if you can hear

[15:23] the words that she was saying

[15:24] actually saying on the phone call

[15:27] some meditating there and listen.

[15:31] I need me to want to

[15:35] listen

[15:38] to things about her life.

[15:41] - Wow.

[15:45] Pretty calm and excited

[15:47] and wow, yeah.

[15:52] It's a beautiful, it's very different.

[15:55] - It's different, it was going on.

[15:58] It was actually going on other than

[16:00] what you were thinking and believing

[16:09] and reacting to.

[16:11] There was no place where your daughter was

[16:14] you were just like

[16:17] imagining who she was, imagining before and after

[16:23] it's like she wasn't even on the card for you.

[16:25] - Yeah, true, that's true.

[16:33] - Can you see another turn around?

[16:45] - I need Courtney to want to tell me.

[16:52] - So let's look at five.

[16:53] - Okay.

[16:56] - You see when we write it down

[16:59] it's like, you know if I hadn't written it down

[17:01] and this were my work, which it always is

[17:05] it would be, oh I don't need to know the rest

[17:09] I don't need to do any more, I've got it.

[17:18] eventually everything you think ends in a question mark

[17:21] when you take this on

[17:22] it's like oh I don't need to do it

[17:27] well I've already got this

[17:30] you see just question mark, question mark

[17:34] and it doesn't sound like a lilt, it's just there

[17:37] that question mark is there.

[17:42] It's like that little boy, I didn't like him

[17:47] I didn't like him

[17:50] yes that is true, it's so silent

[17:56] but it becomes a part of your

[17:59] a mechanism in your mind that is

[18:02] it's like a bridge from believing

[18:08] to non-believing

[18:12] and in the non-believing, you're shown

[18:15] you know, this is unnecessary.

[18:21] It's obvious

[18:23] without judgment.

[18:27] It's so organized, you know

[18:29] The Beatles had it, they said let it be.

[18:32] (audience laughing)

[18:36] just let it be, notice.

[18:38] For example, on this phone call

[18:40] you know, without the dreamer

[18:43] just let it be and there she is.

[18:48] There's your baby.

[18:51] - Telling me about her life.

[18:53] (chuckling)

[18:56] - Yeah.

[19:00] Even with all the interruptions coming from you

[19:04] there she was.

[19:07] So five?

[19:09] - Courtney is scared, hurt, angry, selfish and incapable.

[19:16] So I am scared, hurt, angry, selfish and incapable.

[19:21] Just turn it around.

[19:24] (audience laughing)

[19:27] and six.

[19:29] - So let's look at. - Oh.

[19:32] - Courtney is selfish.

[19:36] Is it true?

[19:37] - No, she's not.

[19:39] - In that conversation?

[19:40] Now you're saying no

[19:43] so contemplate it.

[19:45] You could be right, Courtney is selfish, is it true?

[19:51] So now I'm going to, I am going to test

[19:56] yes

[19:59] and I'm going to test no.

[20:03] Like I believe she's selfish, is it true?

[20:07] I want to be shown.

[20:10] I need to get really still

[20:13] I judged it then, it was hasty and I was crazy

[20:18] so now it's sitting alone.

[20:22] In that situation, she was selfish, is it true?

[20:24] Now I can contemplate, she's not on the phone

[20:28] it's just me with me

[20:30] I'm listening to that conversation and I'm not even

[20:35] it's like it's there for me to listen to, that's a gift.

[20:43] She's selfish, is it true?

[20:48] Remember, it's not forever and ever and ever

[20:51] it's just in that situation, is she selfish?

[20:55] Is it true?

[20:58] - I think it's true, in a good way.

[21:02] - Oh wow.

[21:04] That's like a double flip.

[21:06] - Yeah.

[21:07] (audience chuckling)

[21:08] Her self-preservation.

[21:11] (laughing)

[21:13] - God, our children had the same mother.

[21:15] (laughing)

[21:19] - Yeah.

[21:22] Yeah.

[21:23] - So listen to that conversation without

[21:25] the thought she's selfish.

[21:34] Who are you without the thought, she's selfish?

[21:39] Sitting on the bed, without the images of past, future.

[21:42] Those images of past, future were

[21:44] the proof that she's selfish.

[21:49] So without the post-its

[21:54] who and what, who am I?

[21:56] - I'm gracious.

[21:58] You know?

[22:05] - Really taking in what she is giving you of her life

[22:09] above all odds.

[22:13] So she's selfish turned around.

[22:18] - I'm selfish?

[22:19] - So where were you selfish

[22:21] in the moment you believe she was selfish?

[22:23] - Oh I didn't listen to her, at all.

[22:26] I didn't listen to her, what she wanted to tell me

[22:31] and share with me.

[22:32] - Yeah.

[22:35] But the beautiful thing is you can call her

[22:38] and this is a life pattern of mine.

[22:42] It's to admit it

[22:46] and to make it right any way I can

[22:50] and in this situation, it would be to listen

[22:54] to admit it, apologize and then to just listen

[22:59] and say I wasn't even able to hear you.

[23:03] I was crazy.

[23:05] Would you tell me again about your move?

[23:11] I really

[23:13] am going to try to listen through this head of mine

[23:17] that sometimes has a problem.

[23:22] (laughing)

[23:26] - Okay.

[23:27] - Hard to hear?

[23:28] People scream at us, hard to hear

[23:32] because we're believing over it

[23:33] we're believing on to it

[23:34] we're believing left and right of it.

[23:43] So let's turn everything around.

[23:44] My daughter is, what is the opposite, opposite of scared?

[23:50] - Brave.

[23:51] - Yeah.

[23:52] - Brave.

[23:53] - Opposite of hurt?

[23:57] Mature?

[23:59] - Mature?

[24:00] Okay.

[24:01] Yeah, yeah, very much so.

[24:03] - Hurt is

[24:05] a tantrum.

[24:06] - Okay.

[24:07] - It's a sleepness.

[24:09] It's nothing to be ashamed of

[24:11] it's just the life of a believer.

[24:14] I can only be hurt when I imagine

[24:18] onto what you're saying

[24:21] or what I'm thinking.

[24:27] - Okay.

[24:27] Angry?

[24:28] Opposite of angry is at peace, peaceful.

[24:34] - Opposite of selfish, my daughter is?

[24:37] - Generous.

[24:41] - Calling you, not hanging up on you.

[24:43] - Yes.

[24:44] (laughing)

[24:48] - Opposite of incapable?

[24:52] - She's capable.

[24:54] Yeah.

[24:55] - Yeah.

[24:56] Now, when you're meditating, you know

[24:59] you're doing your 20 minutes or your hour

[25:00] or whatever it is.

[25:04] Just sitting in the stillness for example

[25:06] and that conversation, she's incapable

[25:09] turn around she's capable.

[25:12] Yeah I've seen it in this 20 minutes

[25:15] but I'm still going to honor that thought.

[25:20] A thought that would create my entire world

[25:24] deserves a little consideration

[25:28] so she's capable, so I'm going to look for that

[25:31] I've looked for where she's generous

[25:33] the opposite of selfish

[25:35] and capable, where was she capable?

[25:38] My mind, my ego is going to say

[25:40] oh I already have seen that

[25:43] oh, you know, I'll just move on.

[25:45] But you have the rest of your lives to get still

[25:47] and she's capable.

[25:51] In that situation, show me

[25:54] and I'm not gonna make nice with it

[25:56] show me, I'm back in that conversation

[25:58] on the phone I'm witnessing.

[26:02] Enlightenment comes, you ask

[26:06] you open your mind, you ask, you wait

[26:08] and you'll be shown.

[26:13] In that conversation, where is it that she's capable?

[26:20] So that next time I talk to her

[26:22] I know who she is, I know who I'm talking to

[26:27] and I have a much better view of who she is.

[26:30] So I can talk to her on a more mature level

[26:34] and because age has nothing to do with maturity.

[26:38] If you're angry

[26:43] notice how you react

[26:45] it's three, five, six, seven-year-old behavior.

[26:54] I don't know how to outgrow it.

[26:56] We can pretend, but it's still there

[26:58] we call that maturity.

[27:02] Or we can

[27:05] literally get still, ask and be shown

[27:10] and it shifts

[27:12] because you're awake to it and that's the difference

[27:14] it's nothing you have to do

[27:16] it's something you're awake to, you're awake to.

[27:23] Okay, precious, let's look at six.

[27:25] - Okay.

[27:29] Okay, I don't ever want to be told news by Courtney

[27:33] shocking news by Courtney again.

[27:36] - I'm willing to?

[27:38] - I'm willing to be told shocking news by Courtney again.

[27:41] - I look forward to?

[27:42] - I look forward to be told shocking news by Courtney again.

[27:46] - Yes and why?

[27:48] Because it shows you you've made some progress, maybe.

[27:52] (chuckling)

[27:54] Or it shows you, it shows you what's left.

[28:01] It shows you the work that's left

[28:04] because anything my children would tell me that would

[28:09] shock me to a point that I would attack

[28:12] the least little bit, then my work's not done.

[28:19] Thank you.

[28:20] - Thank you, yeah.

[28:21] (audience applause)

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American author and teacher of "The Work" — a method of self-inquiry consisting of four questions (Is it true? Can you absolutely know it's true? How do you react when you believe…

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Byron Katie's Work suggests the hurt comes not from what they do, but from the belief you're holding about it. By questioning whether the belief is true (e.g., 'they don't tell me about their life'), examining how you react when you believe it, and identifying the unconscious images of past and future driving your reaction, you can release the demand and experience the actual communication that is present. When the belief loosens, authentic curiosity and presence replace defensiveness.
According to Katie, talking often masks judging and attacking—projecting your expectations onto the other person. True listening requires releasing the story you've constructed about who they are and what they should do. It means being present without the internal narrative of past grievances or future fears. When you listen instead of talk (in this sense), you actually hear what the person is saying and who they really are.
Katie describes these mental images as the 'dream world'—a narrative we construct while real events unfold. While your daughter is calling to announce her move, your mind might simultaneously generate images of abandonment or loss from the past, along with catastrophic futures. You become absorbed in the dream and miss the actual moment of connection. Dropping the dream—the images of past and future—allows you to experience what is actually happening.
Turnarounds are ways of flipping a stressful statement to reveal blind spots and hidden beliefs. For example, 'She doesn't tell me about her life' becomes 'She does tell me about her life,' 'I don't tell me about my life,' and 'I don't tell her about my life.' Each version reveals a different truth and often exposes where you hold the very quality you're accusing the other person of.
Katie's approach is not denial but clarity. When you genuinely question a belief and see it's not true, the hurt that depended on the belief doesn't need to be suppressed—it naturally releases. In the example, once the mother saw her daughter actually was sharing, the hurt transformed into excitement and love. The shift is not forced; it flows from the direct perception of what is actually occurring.
A tantrum is a protest against reality not matching your demand. When you believe 'my daughter should tell me about her life' and she doesn't tell you in the way you expect, you experience hurt—which is the ego's complaint that the universe isn't obeying. When you release the unspoken demand, hurt loses its fuel and authentic emotion (like joy for her growth) can emerge.
The Work is not about replacing negative thoughts with positive ones. It's about questioning whether a thought is actually true. You aren't forcing yourself to think 'my daughter loves me' instead of 'she doesn't tell me.' Rather, you examine the belief you're holding, see evidence that contradicts it, and allow the mind to adjust naturally to reality. This grounds the process in truth rather than in willpower or denial.

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